This Author is a TERRORIST for Hurting ELON Musk’s feewings!
And lack of equipment needed to bypass that setup, like a saw and jaws of life
“Rescuers” in this case refers to a dude running a paint shop running over with a fire extinguisher
The article doesn’t say, but I’d assume EMS hadn’t arrived by the time they all died
Guys, what is this shit? Do you want a clickbait news article for every death by malfunction to jerk off to? I detest Elon as much as everyone else in here. But this schadenfreude leeching to dunk on him is a pretty weak character trait.
How about dunking on a car manufacturer who designed things in a way that gets people killed, repeatedly.
But this is fake news. Picking scary anecdotes to make Teslas seem more dangerous than they really are. They are pretty safe, look at the statistics (sorry, I’m from Germany).
Again: Fuck Elon Musk! But his cars are expensive, high-tech, next level and as safe as any other vehicle. I personally will never ever buy one. But that’s no reason to act like screaming pitchfork idiots in here.
remember his robotaxis automatically identifies and locks on to children like a missile, and runs them over.
How do people buy these things. I’ve seen entire car ranges written off for decades, for way less than, might lock you in and burn you alive. I don’t get it.
Shit. First responders don’t carry a Sawzall?
In this case the first responder was just some guy working at the corner store. He only had a fire extinguisher, but for basically any other car brand that would have been fine: open the door, drag people out, spray the fire, good enough probably.
But these people were in a Tesla, which requires electricity to open the doors (or a hidden manual release that can only be used from inside and involves several unintuitive steps)
Fair enough, I just read the headline and saw the picture of people in yellow vests. If you want me to read the article I’ll need another coffee.
Even if it was the way you assumed, a sawzall would have a tough time getting through most Tesla doors, it’d be useless on a cyber truck. Tesla is the problem here.
This has happened before, and nothing seems to be done about it. 🤷♂️
If a person has so little self preservation as to buy one at this point, maybe this is free market regulating itself?
Its not like the kids had a choice…
Oh, I’m sorry. I didn’t realize the kids baught the car.
What? Thats my point that the kids didnt buy it?
R/woosh
Yeah its actually quite common for doors to be jammed in a car crash. That’s why the ambulance carries a hammer.
So if I’m understanding correctly, the windows on this car were made of transparent aluminum, not glass.
whatcouldgowrong
(my actual conclusion is that a dude didn’t even attempt smashing a glass window with a metal fire extinguisher.)
Standards exist for a reason. Sometimes low(er)-tech is better and you don’t need to reinvent the wheel.
In summary, never buy a Tesla.
The CEO is a bona fide nazi, and the board will stop at nothing to pay him a trillion dollars.
The vehicle will incinerate you at a time of its choosing.
Makes you wonder if this is just another case of deregulation driving up its body count, or if a certain Nazi is acting out his oven fetish.
Holy fuck this is all arguably not hyperbolic, satirical, nor seen as extreme.
Too ridiculous for fiction. Except P.K. Dick I guess.
PKD would’ve been like
Oh, killer cars? that’s cute. How about a drug that makes you become a car for 12 hours at a time, and each time you use it, it physically destroys your brain a little bit
Can anyone offer a good faith explanation of why they thought electronically controlled doors would be a good design choice?
also the retractable door handles, which i dont like. seems many EV have copied that feature.
Honestly you can get the same esthetic look with some engineering. Just have two half to the door handle, the bottom pushes inwards with light pressure from your fingers and the the top pulls outwards when you pull from below.
LOOK AT THAT
No electronics involved, same look and “aerodynamics”, and you won’t die in a fire trapped inside your vehicle.
Because American consumers are obsessed with pointless gadgetry, and bullshit sells cars.
I hate electronics in cars.
Efi and abs. Thats all anyone needs. Roll downs, manual, no screen, no digital gauge shit.
Sadly thats illegal to build now. And why cars cost so much.
I don’t mind electronics out of hand, but I don’t want my car to automatically be a data source for the manufacturer and remote control should be impossible, or at the very least something the owner can disable.
Unfortunately, neither is true of my 2019 Chevy Volt. Maybe my next EV.
I’ve been wondering about the viability of using the modem in my Jeep, it would be cool to see what it does on a test bench with some spare sensors sending test data.
If I decide to keep the car (been debating trading it for an older truck), I’m definitely removing it at the least, but its hardware I bought and I love playing with old discarded hardware.
Hey, don’t blame it on the customers. Blame it on the developers competing with each other to constantly keep innovating new ideas to one-up each other. And then they force these new technologies onto the customers because there are no other options, even if older models were more logical & functional.
Moreover, how long will it take for US auto regulators to ban them the way China already has?
it seems the door handles on other evs, seem so flimsy, and could easily jam or not work.
I sure wish ride-hailing apps would let you specify “no Teslas”.
Do people who can afford a Tesla need to work shitty Uber jobs?
The last time I called for a ride, the driver was in a Tesla. I’m not familiar with the Tesla models, but I’m guessing it’s the cheapest one. It was so narrow in there. Definitely not comfortable to have three people (who aren’t overweight) in the backseat. It was a bit of a shock compared to my Outback, which is much roomier (I didn’t drive because we planned to be drinking).
Also, it had this screen in your face even in the backseat playing ads or whatever that I was trying to ignore. And it didn’t feel premium. I don’t know why anyone would want that car.
I had read about people not knowing how to use the door handles on a Tesla and I still had trouble using them.
I’d rather not die in a fire in some shitty ass car being sold by a neo-Nazi.
Oh look, the thing we said would happen has happened. Again.
It happens in other cars too. And batteries burn. The outer door handles are no different than any car’s locked doors.
The handles on the model 3 and Y are absolutely different than those of other vehicles. On the inside there are mechanical handles in the front only, and it’s fairly easy to be unaware of their existence, they blend in too well. If the power fails in the low voltage system then the only way to get the rear doors open from the inside is to lift up the liner in the door pocket and pull on a small steel cable that unlatches the door.
Child locks have been mandatory since 1971. You can’t open the back doors inside with child locks on either. This story is a big nothingburger.
I have one, I know exactly how it works. Yes the back door system is stupid, but no worse for safety than any car with the kid locks on the doors.
The emergency internal handles in the front are exactly where you think they’d be. If I don’t tell people how to open the door with the button, they pull the emergency handle. Of course if someone is used to pushing the button and it doesn’t work, they might panic, and forget but if they’re unconscious it hardly matters.You realize you are just trying to convince yourself you have a safe car, right? I know you need a big ego to want a tesla in the first place, but its okay to say you learned new information and want to change your mind.
I feel pretty safe in it. Ego has nothing to do with it. When I bought it a number of years ago, it seemed like a good way to be better for the environment, help propel innovation and have something fun and different. I certainly will never buy a Tesla again because of Elon, but I think the car’s pretty good. I feel much safer in it than in our Mazda 2 that would be squished like an empty pop can in a collision between two SUV’s.
But then they wouldn’t be… CannonFodder.
Well yes. And I know trying to explain these facts in a room of Tesla haters isn’t going to get anywhere. I certainly wouldn’t buy another Tesla because of Elon, but I really think the car itself is quite well made.
From the article:
Teslas have electronic doors that are opened by pressing a button rather than pulling on the handles, which are retractable. However, in a crash, the car’s power can fail, rendering the doors useless.
I have one I know exactly how they work. To be clear I think Musk is a fool and I would never buy a tesla again because of his Nazi ties. But the statement in that article about handles is wrong/simplified/misleading. On the outside, the handles lay flat; but almost all car’s outer handles will not be usable when a door is locked. On the inside, the doors have electric buttons to open that could be disabled in a crash. But there are easy to use manual handles too. They are obvious and people use them by default until you tell them to use the electronic button (which prolongs the life of the window gasket by lowering the frameless window a bit before opening). In the back, there are manual overrides but they’re hidden; however this is no less safe than having the child lock on for back door which is a normal feature for cars.
You need to look up ‘impact detection/sensing door locks’ which is a safety feature that unlocks the doors in the event of a crash. So no, most modern cars exterior handles are not useless after a crash. For the few areas Tesla is ahead of other manufacturers, they are behind in many others. Tesla has been losing ground every year.
Yes Teslas have that too. They have a redundant power to the doors to minimize failure. But we’re talking about the case where that fails, no?
That so much extra crap to work around a design choice that doesn’t really bring anything beneficial to the situation. These issues are basically unheard of on most other vehicles. Meanwhile there’s an article seemingly every few months about more people dying in Tesla’s because the doors wouldn’t open.
Every time anything goes slightly amiss with a Tesla, the media play it up because people like you who hate Tesla want to read about Tesla failure, so it drives engagement. Many many other cars have accidents where people get stuck in the car. There are other cars that have frameless windows and electronic handles, but you never hear about them not because they’re any safer, but because no one cares about them.
This is how I know, 100% no shadow of a doubt, TSLA is being highly illegally manipulated.
All in TSLQ and still waiting, maybe forever… bottom line is either reality prevails and I make a LOT of money, or shit is rigged so bad we have no future anyway.
Godspeed to you. I was convinced of the same thing a couple of years ago and lost my ass shorting that stock. Turns out, the market can stay manipulated for a long fucking time because there’s no regulatory body that actually gives a shit.
As the old adage goes, the market can stay irrational for longer than you can stay solvent
