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    8 hours ago

    Not really. The Nazis had symbols for Jews, this symbol was used for various non-Jewish prisoners as well. And it was used for prisoners, not targets.

    And?

    And then you just repeated your same argument that Hamas is antisemitic and they use the symbol so it’s antisemitic.

    “The Holocaust deniers use a symbol from the Holocaust to mark people they characterize as Jews for death”

    If it were any other antisemitic group, would you be bending backwards to accommodate their introduction of such a symbol?

    And then you add a new argument: that tankies use the symbol and they are pro-ethnic cleansing which is the same as being antisemitic (it isn’t) so the symbol is antisemitic

    “It’s not antisemitic to want to ethnically cleanse Jews from a region!”

    Holy fucking shit, are you being serious?

    But there’s also plenty of people who aren’t antisemitic who use the symbol.

    Which has all the validity of anti-capitalists deciding to use the swastika in honor of the Strasserists, whilst insisting that they aren’t onboard with the whole antisemitism thing, just the anti-capitalism.

    Sorry it just doesn’t convince me. The symbol may be problematic since it’s often used to designate targets, but this connection to the holocaust is just not accurate.

    I note again

    “The Holocaust deniers use a symbol from the Holocaust to mark people they characterize as Jews for death”

    Christ, it’s like talking to a conservative claiming that MAGA merch being sold for $14.88 means nothing.