• hatorade@lemmy.world
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    Tankies are dumbasses who simp for dictators, liberals have more intelligence but apply it incorrectly.

    You could just as easily say “Liberals are morons who have the right intentions (democracy) but the wrong idea how to get it (capitalism)”

    Honestly, fair.

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      Tankies are dumbasses who simp for dictators, liberals have more intelligence but apply it incorrectly.

      Most liberals are liberal for lack of a better idea. Most liberals have not even been exposed to serious conceptions of socialism. If given the choice between fighting with liberals or fighting with tankies to see the point of a democratic and socialist society, liberals are by far the easier fight.

      For that matter, if given the choice between fighting with a liberal regime, whose insufficient opposition to authoritarianism is likely to result in an eventual capitulation to fascism; or a tankie regime, which is and has its goal as fascism painted red; the former is much easier to fight and organize in.

      Of those two choices - and the real world is not composed of such a binary - I would argue, albeit admittedly as a demsoc rather than an outright anarchist - that anarchists, whom I disagree with moderately at most, shouldn’t have anything in common with fucking tankies, who are despicable. If ‘opposition to capitalism’ is a valid point of ‘agreement’ then, as I pointed out, literal fascist regimes are no less ‘allies’ in that conception in contrast to the liberal menace.

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        Most liberals have not even been exposed to serious conceptions of socialism.

        Worth mentioning that this is US-defaultism. Outside the US everyone has experienced socialised healthcare or other such social services

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          Worth mentioning that this is US-defaultism. Outside the US everyone has experienced socialised healthcare or other such social services

          Welfare states originated with Otto von Bismarck in an effort to combat socialism, which is worker ownership of the means of production. For that matter, Americans are eminently familiar with social services.