Hi there.
You probably expect some sort of brigading of some sort, or some ironic post to spite you or your values, but this is not. I don’t share the provocations and general negativity that this new instance seems to have attracted.
I, for change, welcome you to the fediverse, in hope, maybe naive, that sharing a common ground would allow both of our community nembers to get out of our respective echo chambers and try to find our common values and get a better understanding of each other, rather than locking ourselves into our dogmas and differences.
Unfortunately, not everyone will share this goodwill, especially on a world as fractured as our is now, so I’ll add a “good luck” handling all the stuff that are unfortunately coming your way, and hope you will not take it too badly.
We, on the left, have our share of tankies and idiots, and that’s not going to change any time soon, but at least there are others that want to mend that broken world, even if it takes time.
Be well, stay kind, and good luck
A (French) leftist.
I think basically points of agreement should be identified and worked on together
small example: lots of people want to permanently change daylight saving in some direction or another. We might be able to come to agreement on things like this that can improve our society.
points of disagreement should be identified and ideally worked through
big example: abortion. conservatives believe this is the taking of an innocent human’s life and their freedom. Obviously if you believed that, you’d probably be against it too. The pro-abortion side does not often believe the unborn baby is alive like a child or adult is, and believes forcing a mother to give birth is a violation of her freedom. So we have conflicting claims of the freedom of the unborn child versus the freedom of the mother to not have to carry a pregnancy. These kinds of conflicts have to be worked through and ideally people can be brought to more of a consensus about them.
One of the reasons fascism, intolerance, xenophobia, science denial, and the willful destruction of democracy has become the norm is because people like you and many of our “leaders” continue to try the “high road” engaging in good faith. You expect the same in return from a demographic that is incapable of it. Fascists do not want to “find common values and get a better understanding of you.” Your post is less about solving troubling realities of the world and more about flexing a pious mental masturbation.
Same can be said of those who, for the sake of looking good to their own demographic, chose to ignore those they dislikes, painting them as some sort of mortal enemies that shouldn’t be allowed to even breath.
Fascisms doesn’t come from nowhere, those following those ideology often don’t do it out of bad faith, but to make sense of their own lives and experiences.
To prevent them from seeing the other side of the coin doesn’t do them any favor, it just prevent them from having any chance of seeing for themselves if their are any alternative arguments, forcing them toward the only way they can still see, often radicalization.
Extremism of all side feed on division, on creating false dichotomy of “them vs us” to ciment their power over others, so of you truly want to fight that, you should try to show a better way instead of showing the door, there are far more example of that approach being effective than ostracization.“Painting [others] as some sort of mortal enemies that shouldn’t be allowed to even breath” is the playbook of conservatives not progressives. If you were actually progressive you would implicitly understand that. You would also understand that conservatives hate people whereas progressives hate behavior. That is a big difference. The answers to the big problems society is facing is going to require more than just loudly proclaiming “we should be nice to each other.” When one side of the divide loathes your existence and does everything it can to marginalize you with closed ears, there is little room for dialog. My guess is that you’re a conservative with some cognitive dissonance bubbling up in light of the fact that the quiet parts are now being spoken out loud with fervor. Either way, your approach to slump into both-sides-ism is misguided and wrong.
Extremism of all side feed on division, on creating false dichotomy of “them vs us” to ciment their power over others, so of you truly want to fight that, you should try to show a better way instead of showing the door, there are far more example of that approach being effective than ostracization.
Fucking truth and perfect point! I like you!
You seem very fascist. Are you a Leftist Fascist? Seems like it. I think you are just here to spread discontent.
A (French)
leftistshitlib.It is precisely because we want to mend the world that the fascists and capitalists broke that any leftist worth a damn refuses to work with capitalists and fascists.
I appreciate you! But just know, that now Lemmy is gonna start hating on ya pretty quick. lol
But you’re cool in my book, brother.
What common ground do you expect to find with a fascist, as a leftist?
The reality is that you’re fascist troll. Everyone knows it. lol
“Everyone”
Everyone here knows it. I know you may have some on Lemmy tricked.
Let’s not forget how “mad” you are that I’m on the lemmy.today instance too. All just fake nonsense to stir up drama.
You’re just a fascist trying to spread hatred. Ewww…
“Everyone”…
Its weird, only fash try calling me a fascist lol
One thing is always certain: every conservative accusation is really an admission.
See? There you go, trying to spread hate. You keep proving your fascism every time you post! lol
One thing is always certain: every liberal accusation is really an admission. Left Fascists and Left Nazis trying to overtake Lemmy. Glad more of us conservatives are coming here, so that you can’t rule all of the fediverse.
Fucking lol, ok.
I’m glad you feel good that more conservatives coming to the Fediverse. I think it’s awesome too. :)
