• Archangel1313@lemmy.ca
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    17 days ago

    This makes a valid case for removing the president’s ability to issue pardons. Would it be such a great loss, if it means the privilege can no longer be abused like this?

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      16 days ago

      Its likely the pardon could be removed but getting that to apply retroactively would be even harder. However i think Americans need to do both.

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    17 days ago

    And we should ignore those.

    Just… charge them anyway. Arrest their asses, because of the crimes they did. Reject the naked illegitimacy of criminals themselves being able to go ‘nuh uh.’

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    I bet these top aides really badly hope he doesn’t die of a sudden heart attack or stroke before he has a chance to. If he ever even had the intention to keep his word about that to begin with, which is a stretch since there wouldn’t be anything in it for him at that point.

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    16 days ago

    So he’s at least contemplating leaving office. Baby steps.


    The article lists so many obviously greed-motivated pardons, it’s disgusting.

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      16 days ago

      He also said he presidential library hotel/offices wouldn’t happen until after he left office

  • HasturInYellow@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    Ooooh a pardon!! Is that like a magical seal that repels all justice? It sure would be a shame if literally no one gave a single fuck if there was a pardon or not when this government is burned to the ground.

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    16 days ago

    I wonder what the next US government will do with these useless pardon papers.

    They could simply wipe their asses with it, but I guess they’ll just go “oh well, it’s official!” because they might need them themselves later or something

    Anyone dreaming about seeing those pardoned assholes back in prison, seeing anyone from the current trump administration in jail, is indeed only dreaming

  • Furbag@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    Thanks Biden for setting the precedent for preemptive pardons. Un fucking believable.

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      16 days ago

      Didn’t Trump pardon people not yet convicted on his way out the first time?

      And even then, Ford preemptively pardoned Nixon.

      You’re a bad troll.

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        Didn’t Trump pardon people not yet convicted on his way out the first time?

        I don’t recall that happening, no. He didn’t even pardon a single J6’er until he got into office a second time. Only guy I can think of is Roger Stone, and he was already charged.

        And even then, Ford preemptively pardoned Nixon.

        A grand jury had already drafted up an indictment against him, so the charges were inevitable. I don’t think what Ford did was right either, but let’s not pretend that a president pardoning someone who was obviously guilty and was going to be charged and tried for a crime that everyone knew they had committed, and a president promising to pardon his entire staff for any crimes they have yet to be charged with are anywhere close to the same thing.

        You’re a bad troll.

        You’re entitled to think that, I guess. Biden DID pardon himself and his family members for crimes that he was never charged with or convicted of, in anticipation of retribution from Trump. Sorry that my opinion on that disagrees with you somehow.

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          You’re the one that claimed Biden set the precedent of preemptive pardons, which is factually incorrect.

          A lot of our current issues go back to Nixon actually. Fox News was specifically created in the aftermath so conservatives could control the media narrative. Should just scrap everything since then and start over.

  • Avicenna@programming.dev
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    16 days ago

    Another way to say “don’t leak any of the unleaked stuff I have said/done and in return I shall protect you”