A new European initiative dubbed UnifiedAttestation aims to build a free and open-source alternative to Google’s Play Integrity checks. The initiative is backed by smartphone maker Volla, while other partners include /e/OS maker Murena and the team behind iodé OS. The feature will be distributed under an Apache 2.0 license.

    • Zak@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      Are they, or are they against GrapheneOS itself supporting it?

      Those are different. GrapheneOS exists to be security-hardened and usually should choose security over utility where there’s a conflict.

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        They arebgwnweally against root, as it “breaks security” in their mind.

        Nevermind that all systems, everywhere, have root for some account/some account is root.

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          It breaks their sandboxing model, which limits the impact of malicious/compromised apps.

          To be clear, I’m not arguing against root here. I daily a rooted phone, and I believe if it’s impossible to get root on something, it isn’t really yours. You can get root on GrapheneOS; they just discourage it because they’re strongly focused on security.

          They’re right. If a bug in AdAway, which needs root to write /etc/hosts caused it to fetch and execute malicious code, the malware could do anything I can do to my device. The scenario is plausible; it routinely fetches blocklists, and I imagine a sophisticated enough attacker could compromise the delivery mechanism.

          I don’t worry about that scenario because it’s unlikely that kind of attacker will target me. GrapheneOS is meant for people who do have to worry about that kind of thing.

          @Onomatopoeia @Zak@lemmy.world

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            I don’t disagree.

            Problem is their binary attitude about root.

            Root us used, every day, on every system on the planet.

            Even Windows now uses a more granular Admin system - which is a better approach.

            In Linux we only escalate as-needed, and strictly limit accounts that are used for services (Windows too actually).