It’s not fun interacting with them when they often want to engage in ad hominems. This is why I have no interest in the tankie triad.

  • PhilipTheBucket@quokk.auEnglish
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    2 months ago

    I disagree with your framing. I think you’re being dishonest in your framing on what caused the mod actions.

    I can’t count how many times someone on or off blahaj tried to explain that Dragonrider’s trolling, encouraging other users to suicide, things like that, were the core of the issue. If you really want to join Ada in pretending that there’s a whole Lemmy population that’s just frothing at the mouth to dictate to other people what pronouns they can and can’t use, and that was what got them heated up about Dragonrider and nothing about any of the other stuff, I won’t stop you. I started to dig up old messages to put together a timeline, but then I realized I don’t care and I think the issue is pretty clear enough already.

    At the end of the day we and Ada are beholden to our respective users, and as it turns out, they think those were the right choices.

    This was pretty much my point. lemmy.ml and Hexbear love how their admins behave, and that’s all the admins feel like they need to know. My point was that (a) you’re starting to operate along the same lines, it looks like, and (b) that’s not always a good thing.

    I want to point out however that all this brouhaha is over a 7days ban.

    Personally, I don’t care about the ban itself. I actually agree with you that PugJesus making a whole community to whine about how unfair it is is kind of childish. I care more about the bullying and fact-free mentality, that big thread with people making up nonsense about the target of the day.

    • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Honestly, I think calling what’s ongoing “bullying” is kinda strange. If anything we wanted to cool the situation down.

      This was pretty much my point. lemmy.ml and Hexbear love how their admins behave, and that’s all the admins feel like they need to know. My point was that (a) you’re starting to operate along the same lines, it looks like, and (b) that’s not always a good thing.

      I would rather show me which admins are more centered on what every rando on the internet thinks. Then I can point you to someone about to have a burnout.

      • PhilipTheBucket@quokk.auEnglish
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        2 months ago

        Honestly, I think calling what’s ongoing “bullying” is kinda strange. If anything we wanted to cool the situation down.

        Quotes from the thread:

        The person in question is extremely rude and toxic. I have reached out to the LW admins regarding that he seems unfit to be moderating a dozen medium to larger communities. Unfortunately i didnt get any reply.

        I think he’s an obnoxious dickhead

        I remember his username and him being a twat

        He’s a genocide-supporting Zionist radlib

        a goddam stalker

        an angry turbolib who blames the left (and Eugene in particular, for some reason) for the pathetic failure of the corporate-c**k-sucking Democrats

        And so on. There’s plenty more, that’s just what I had patience to dig up.

        I would rather show me which admins are more centered on what every rando on the internet thinks.

        Those aren’t the only two options lol. I’m just saying that “Our users/tribe love that we always take the side of our users/tribe no matter the facts of the situation!” isn’t the good justification that it sounds like, when you phrase it differently than I just did.

        • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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          2 months ago

          Quotes from the thread:

          Not sure which thread you mean, but If you think people expressing their low opinions about someone is “bullying”, then, well you haven’t experienced bullying. And also, what the hell do you expect of dbzer0 admins to do about people expressing such opinions? You want us to go around protecting the people you like from public opinion? Like, this is a legit absurd argument path.

          Those aren’t the only two options lol. I’m just saying that “Our users/tribe love that we always take the side of our users/tribe no matter the facts of the situation!”

          It’s easy to look right when fighting against strawmen.