Research in Indiana lays groundwork for highways that recharge EVs of all sizes across the nation

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    Conceptually neat, but the reality is that wireless charging for even small devices like phones is a pretty significant waste of energy, at scale. The amounts of energy involved with wirelessly charging a heavy truck - or even car - would be unconscionably large.

    It’s a bit like uber with their not-a-bus bus service. Humans already invented a solution that works really well. It’s called a pantograph. Sweden is testing a ground-level power supply that provides 800kW per vehicle at 130kph.

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      3 days ago

      Yeah, this sounds stupid, and I’m worried about the amount of power wasted by induction charging. Anyone who’s wirelessly charged a phone knows it can get quite hot; that’s wasted energy. And Indiana’s generation is still mostly natural gas and coal, so at some point, with enough losses in transmission and charging, you’ll end up with a higher-carbon vehicle than a diesel truck…

      I am not sure what that point is, but the efficiency of charging is an important consideration in my mind.

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        If you could somehow safely combine induction charging with electrical transmission lines, it would be worth it. No more lines on poles.

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              They don’t always. I’ve seen plenty of semi trucks hauling these horizontally on the highway similar to how concrete beams are hauled.

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              Well, it sorta makes sense in hindsight, it’d be even longer otherwise + this way you can clear lower obstacles on curves… But holy shit does it look like it shouldn’t be possible. I mean they’re super heavy, right? Right?

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                18 hours ago

                It’s the carbon fiber which is very light and barely recyclable

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                    6 hours ago

                    It’s a huge rigid structure which has to be light. I also thought of steel before I learned about carbon fiber.

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      The pantograph system in Germany failed though… Too ahead of its time?

      And I’m saying this while being very much pro-pantograph. This has no chance if Germans couldn’t make an economical pantograph system.

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        21 hours ago

        Came here to say this. We tested this in Germany and this experiment failed. Too bad that they didn’t post the details then. I wish this had worked…

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          19 hours ago

          I didn’t read all of it but the technical side was mostly OK (as expected, it’s an adaptation of proven train technology), it’s just that there was little commercial interest.

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            18 hours ago

            That would mean that a more progressive country could use it successfully

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      3 days ago

      I didn’t realize until I read your linked article that wireless charging is essentially induction. Contactless. I have never had one of these devices. Now I want modern earbuds even less. Thanks for sharing that article!