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      It’s just political strategy to avoid getting dragged. This legislation is passing no matter what they do. By voting en masse like this they eliminated a cudgel the Republicans were going to use against them. There’s a lot to be pissed at Dems about but the idiocy going on here is not them coming out of the closet as neonazis, its Dems backed into a corner doing what they can to get out of it. Congress is always stupid like this, it’s how the game is played.

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              Yes, and if Democrats had the votes to stop this that would be relevant. Until there’s more Democrats in Congress the Republicans get to keep doing what they want regardless. In this instance, for a piece of completely irrelevant legislation that has no real impact, the political context of this moment requires them to make a dumb vote. Republicans put this to vote exactly to create this situation where people like you are mad at Democrats instead of Republicans. It’s the consolation prize for not being able to smear the no votes after the Democrats were smart enough not to fall into their trap.

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                If it’s completely irrelevant and has no impact, why vote for it? All they accomplished was making us mad at them, they walked right into the Republican trap and not a single Republican voter is going to vote for Democrats because of this vote.

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                  Because voting no will be used to smear them. That’s the whole point, it forces Democrats into the position where you can hit them with brutal attack ads around this topic if they vote no. Democrats obviously are not neonazis Charlie Kirk supporters who have just been waiting for this day, its a silly accusation. They are just in a shitty situation where either way they vote sucks and they have to choose the least bad option. It happens all the time, especially when they are outnumbered as they currently are. Politics is dumb and messy like that in Congress.

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                    Voting “no” would be used to smear them among the Republican base… who would never vote for them anyway. Who cares?

                    Voting “yes” is now going to hurt them among the Democratic base, and if you recall they lost the last election because they pissed off their own base! In what world is pissing off their own base the “least bad option”? That’s how they always lose!

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            Bold strategy. Let’s see how letting Nazis do whatever they want plays out for them, Cotton.

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            Tactics and strategy only works for those willing to use power when they can.

            This is enabling those who they purport to be against

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              This is a meaningless vote, whether they voted yes or no had no impact on the outcome and the outcome is not significant. Another day honoring a piece of shit in America has no real impact on anyone, we’ve got plenty of them already. All it did was defuse the trap Republicans had set for them, and piss off people who don’t understand how Congress operates.

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                It seems like beyond the pale for me.

                I’m sure I’m not unique in that sentiment.