I heard people claim for some time that Proton supports the Trump administration. I’ve only ever really seen the claim made based on a single tweet.

This person did a pretty deep dive and comes to the conclusion that they don’t, nor does their CEO.

I’m not saying I know what’s in that guy’s head, nor do I want to. But I’m wary of coming to an extreme conclusion about someone because of a couple of sentences that person wrote online.

https://io.waxandleather.com/users/alisynthesis/statuses/115245340493250991

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    19 hours ago

    It was more than a single tweet. It was the way they handled the pushback too. I couldn’t find any mention of the deleted official response in the article you linked. It’s here. And this does not prove that they are supporting Trump, it just shows a complete lack of ability to read the room. I ditched my Proton subscription because there are other providers who have not praised JD Vance (just for showing up).

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    20 hours ago

    That anonymously submitted medium article that gets floated around ignores Internet Association, so wouldn’t be shocking if it was from proton attempting to do PR damage fixating on identity politics with intentional omission of Internet Association involvement.

    Yen conveniently ignored that after working at the FTC, Slater become the vice-president for legal and regulatory policy for the Internet Association lobby group. Which was founded by “small business” like Google, Amazon, eBay and Facebook.

    And involved in trying to infringe upon privacy rights. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/09/lawmakers-must-not-let-internet-association-weaken-california-consumer-privacy-act

    So yeah, proton founder cherry picked information that tried to make it seem like it was acceptable to praise the pick when reality her past is too murky to endorse.

    Apple Tim Cook showed that ideology doesn’t matter when monetary greed is involved, so falling to look how not intolerant Yen just comes off as a diversion from the criticism regarding him choosing to praise Slater by omitting details of her history that didn’t fit the pro consumer narrative for the little guy.

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    No, they don’t. The entire reason for this is because there are too many terminally-online morons who are wholly incapable of understanding nuance, or that a broken clock can still be correct twice a day.

    Understanding this metaphor does not mean the clock is functional in any way, shape, or form.

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    21 hours ago

    Proton’s CEO once agreed with something Trump said (did). Trump appointed a lackey who appeared to Yen (Proton CEO) to be friendly toward “small tech” companies (as opposed to big tech) so he congratulated the move.

    If someone we don’t like does one thing we do like, are we wrong to praise that one thing? If you don’t like me, hypothetically, why should I do anything you like if you will still hate me regardless of how much you agree with what I do? I’m not saying we could turn Trump with kindness. Most likely not. But this rift between people is widening. Of course the rich and poor will always be at odds, but the poor don’t have to be (as) divided by it. I think we’re less likely to radialise people on the other side if we show we’re not a monolith ourselves and willing to see good where we find it.

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      Trump appointed a lackey who appeared to Yen (Proton CEO) to be friendly toward “small tech” companies (as opposed to big tech) so he congratulated the move.

      If someone we don’t like does one thing we do like, are we wrong to praise that one thing?

      Trump took the US out of the TPP, which should be praised by this board. Every once in a while his admin does the right thing for the wrong reasons, and a stopped clock is right twice a day.

      Fuck him for everything else.

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    This article should be pinned to the sidebar to be referenced every time people jump on the “omg proton so bad” bandwagon based on one out of context excerpt from that tweet that everyone seems to love to bring up but without actually doing any further research into the subject.

    Hopefully people will actually read this and adjust their opinions accordingly rather than just repeatedly jumping on that stupid, ill informed bandwagon!

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      This article was written by an anonymous/throwaway Medium account. For all we know, it was written by a PR firm they hired. Corporate propaganda has zero credibility, and the anonymity makes it impossible to verify that it’s anything else.

      And if anything, now that time has proven that Trump/Vance were, in fact, worse than everyone was saying, it’s further reason to hate Proton for using their influence/reach to support them. Did it help them win the whitehouse? Hard to say, but even in the best case scenario, it comes off as a lame, opportunistic move to advertise their services to MAGA and profit off political turmoil.