Toyota wasted years chasing hydrogen so they wouldn’t have to rely on China for lithium and I’ll be shocked now if they’re ever the leader in anything battery related.
IDK I thought CATL was the leader of solid state, and AFAIK already has a working battery that just needs to go into production.
Usually CATL make their new batteries plugin compatible with previous generation batteries, so EV makers that use CATL can shift to the new batteries without much design change of anything else.
My guess is that CATL will be before Toyota. And Toyota is full of shit like they’ve been around electric cars for years.
Don’t get me wrong, current Toyota are decent, but they claimed multiple times in the past to upend the entire market by now. Including claiming they’d make ICE engines to make EV obsolete!
Don’t trust anything Toyota claims about their future tech, they are as full of shit as Elon Musk.Haven’t they been flip flopping for like 10 years? I remember they said they were going all in on EVs to be a leader, then hydrogen, and you said they’re going back to some magical ICE engine. mercedes Formula 1 engine just hit 50% efficiency and that was in a lab. Even basic electric engines are about 90% efficient.
I never claimed they are going back to ICE, but Toyota claimed that they had an ICE engine that would make EV obsolete a couple of years ago when Toyota didn’t have any Electric cars only hybrid.
And no they did not start with EV before hydrogen, all Japanese car makers bet a lot on Hydrogen because it was supported by their government. This is the reason all Japanese car makers except Nissan are late to the EV market.Toyota has made false claims about having amazing batteries before too, seemingly in an attempt to make people wait to buy a new car until Toyota was more competitive. These kinds of vaporware announcements are borderline fraud IMO.
That guy’s law about questions in headlines applies here
That guy
Thank you. Though I’m sure I’ll forget by the time I need it again. : - /
I swear I’ve seen articles about Toyota promising solid state batteries in 2 years over 5 years ago.
The only reason why I possibly maybe think this could be legit is because they’re working with two big Chinese EV brands who I think already have “semi solid state” batteries.
Ebikes are what need this technology first. $2000/kwh battery is no problem if its under 3kg. even $3000/kwh is possible to consider. For cars, racing and super cars has to be first. Doubling range for 20x the battery cost is not, compared to 20%-40% the power to weight ratio for same range, on a car made to be superlight. Costs will follow scale, but mass production transport is not the first categories.
