Even more reason to DeGoogle your computers
- https://f-droid.org/packages/dev.clombardo.dnsnet/
- https://grapheneos.org/ * https://postmarketos.org/
- https://www.fairphone.com/ * https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-phone-preorder
- https://librewolf.net/ * https://www.waterfox.com/
- https://codeberg.org/ironfox-oss/IronFox * https://f-droid.org/packages/org.mozilla.fennec_fdroid/
- https://www.ecosia.org/ * https://qwant.com/ * https://searxng.org/
- https://immich.app/ * https://nextcloud.com/
- https://www.comaps.app/ + https://f-droid.org/packages/com.github.olga_yakovleva.rhvoice.android/
- https://signal.org/ * https://element.io/en
- https://chat.mistral.ai/chat
- https://bitwarden.com/ * https://joplinapp.org/
- https://www.qobuz.com/
- https://f-droid.org/packages/eu.faircode.email/ * https://f-droid.org/packages/com.fsck.k9/
- https://tuta.com/secure-email
degoogle for privacy
still use AI chatbot
Bruh
I think such an all-or-nothing mindset is exactly why people are staying on megacorp services. Besides, Mistral is much more transparent about its data collection, unlike Google, which makes you disable all chat history if you want to prevent training on your inputs.
What is your use case for LLMs?
My mindset is all-or-nothing because I have yet to find a use for LLMs. Enlighten me, please.
AI chats are pretty good for finding leads on unknown unknowns when researching something new. Maybe it’s just because of how much worse search engines are now but theyre also pretty good for troubleshooting when you don’t have good keywords to narrow down the search effectively.
I see where you’re coming from and agree that modern search engines are trash. Have you tried the alternate search engines suggested in the first comment? I would personally try those first I suppose.
Reducing the user’s cognitive abilities seems to be the main use of LLMs so far.
All-or-nothing mindset people usually do not comment because they want to be helpful. They are a nuisance.
What do you use AI for?
To block trolls on the internet.
I’m genuinely engaging with the other comments but go off.
I generally favor local LLM usage, but I will sometimes use Kagi’s assistant tools. I trust them to throw out my data a fuckton more than I do Google.
A locally run LLM is a different story, one that I’m slightly more open to, but “trusting” any corp is how we got here. To me degoogling isn’t just about moving away from Google but about removing myself from any nonessential service and limiting the data I share with essential services.
I also just plain don’t know what I’d use any LLM for.
I also just plain don’t know what I’d use any LLM for.
PewDiePie has been on a tear lately with recommending everybody switch to Linux and recently experimenting with LLMs. He put out a legit good local LLM project that showcases the different kinds of things you can do with a model.
My biggest LLM use cases have been:
- A replacement for search, since you typically need multiple searches and multiple sources to get the information you need
- Code generation, because it’s so good at producing entire fully-featured utilities or just let it spin away at implementing some new functionality
- Helping me out with some random Linux error or difficulty, because support forums are fucking garbage
I think needing multiple searches and sources is a good thing, personally. Yes it takes more time and effort but it reinforces research skills. Performing the search yourself provides an opportunity to critically evaluate the information you’re finding and, if applicable, take into account any bias a source may have.
Can’t comment on code generation.
I suppose it depends on the Linux difficulty but reading through documentation and ArchWiki typically gets me enough info to make a more informed/refined search. You’re also likely to stumble across information you’ll want to know rather than just find an answer to the question you’re asking.
Your responses are the equivalent of “I don’t use the internet, because nothing beats the experience of walking to your library and looking through the research material yourself”.
Sure, I can do all of those things. But, sometimes I don’t want to spend hours going through the searches, bang my head against the wall with useless tech forums, and get frustrated with shifting through the results. The LLM can get it done in a minute or two, and I can still ask follow-up questions if I don’t trust anything, or want clarification.
And yes, like Wikipedia, I still review the sources and review the code.
No, my responses are literally “AI answers, legwork teaches.” If you don’t understand or appreciate that difference you are doing yourself a disservice.
So can I just use the OBS virtual camera with a video of somebody waving
Fuck that
Jokes on them, I have no webcam.
Waving is something robots already could in the 80s.
Web cam? I don’t have one on my computer, what now?
If I have to do face verification at some point I am using a pic of Harold. I am almost 70.
Well, not me.
Fuck you, Google.
Oh I’m gonna wave some stuff at them.
Absolutely not. Go fuck yourselves. There’s not a person in the world who I would do this for.
Came to say this. I’m not uploading my ID so I can check my emails. I’m not turning on a camera so I can log into a website.
Don’t have a webcam on my desktop (main PC) and I have no intention of getting one.
Don’t worry, it will ask you to scan a QR code to complete the verification on your phone.
No phone. Now what?
You’re shit out of luck
Drink verification can
I always buy the cheapest phone and usually they dont have built in qr code scanner. My current phone doesnt. And no, im not downloading some shitty feature-stuffed adware app just to scan qr codes
Slightly off topic, but if you need a QR code scanner there are really good open source ones available on F-Droid. Such is SecScanQR which I have been using for quite a while.
If you need a utility app chances are an open source one already exists. Avoid crapware from the Play Store.
Jokes aside don’t give them ideas
What’s the joke?
They already do this
Yeah and they enroll any phone against your will too. Last month google randomly decided an android VM I spun up for like ten minutes then deleted was my primary device and wanted me to use it to log in.
It can try, but I’m not doing that. I will stop using everything that requires it.
Me neither… So are people like us just going to make our own internet or what? Because it’s getting kind of hard not having access to 90% of things without logging in anymore.
Privacy nightmare aside, is it just me or does this sound a lot less secure than the find the bus bullshit they do now? Seems like it would be much easier for a bot to generate a realistic looking hand wave than interpret increasingly obscure photo puzzles.
Well right. But they can’t collect your photo and other data that way.
Saying “WILL” is clickbait.
As many have pointed out, they can’t force this.
Its Google, they will try. “This is the only way to accesss your emails.”
They can definetly use signals like VPN usage, not allowing third-party cookies and whatever else to force this verification mode if they want to. They may not be doing it right now but nothing prevents them.
Me not using their garbage internet does indeed stop them from doing it to me.
It’s reCAPTCHA. What “their garbage internet” are you referring to? The singular internet, the one you’re on right now? reCAPTCHA is used on tons of websites. It used to be useful until Google turned it into a machine learning training tool rather than a bot filtering tool.
Literally yes. I just won’t use that website.
Uh yeah, it most certainly will not.
