• curbstickle@anarchist.nexus
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    21 hours ago

    Personally I’d have no faith in some unknown rando’s ability to shoot accurately or in the ability of an interior wall to protect me.

    The ability to get through security and into the room are not the only concerns.

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      21 hours ago

      Eh, more like 30 semi-randos, even if your average gun owning civilian is a better shot than average law enforcement officer that only quals once a year at best (which only applies to Police afaik, I do not know how rigorous the Secret Service is, I assume “more” but never know), that’s still working in my favor just by odds. The interior wall, fair, but still, it had to be over pretty fucking quick, how many shots did he even get off? How far away does it sound? Those details would also play a role in my decision.

      • curbstickle@anarchist.nexus
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        20 hours ago

        Eh, more like 30 semi-randos

        Holy crap you’re right and its so much worse

        how many shots did he even get off?

        I wouldn’t be waiting to count them to react, the first is the indicator.

        How far away does it sound?

        Close enough that you can hear it, close enough to go for safety first and assess after.

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          20 hours ago

          Tbf, it was “fine” (respects to the family of the guy who did get shot of course), the shooter didn’t make it anywhere near soup guy and probably not this guy either.

          Shootings get to a large number of casualties when they shoot at unarmed people, this guy stormed a line of armed people, much harder.

          At the end of the day it’s their gamble to make anyway, but it by itself isn’t evidence of a set up, they could just be passively suicidal if you prefer that to logically thinking about the fact that he will not get past the guards.

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            17 hours ago

            this guy stormed a line of armed people

            And threw his life away. What’s even funnier, is that he did all that, wrote his mainfesto, and Lemmy doesn’t think any of it’s real anyway.

            So the shooter didn’t even get to make the point he thought he was making! lololololol He had a good job, good life. Now he’s gonna go to prison for the rest of his life. The republicans will always think he is a sicko. Democrats believe he was just a plant. Best justice ever! lmao

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            20 hours ago

            Oh I’m not saying it was fake, I’m saying the lack of response is a complete lack of self preservation.

            Reacting is the typical response. That’s all.

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              20 hours ago

              Some are lol. I mean you’re not wrong it is “normal” but also not necessarily a lack of self preservation, could be faith in the Secret Service. Or faith in The Lord™ I guess, maybe he believes and doesn’t mind meeting him lol.