• otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      12 days ago

      Don’t poor shame. We’re not to blame, the pedo class’ve all been insane since birth, and implying that their victims have any added effect to that inherent crazy is just sloppy at best.

      • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
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        12 days ago

        I didn’t shame or blame anyone. I just stated the simple fact that fear can make crazy people do crazier things. You added those extra layers on top of that. They were produced in your subconscious.

        If you want to surround yourselves with yes men who never mention practical realities, then good luck waging a class war in which you’re the underdogs. If you want a chance in hell at actually improving conditions and not just accelerating everyone’s demise, you might want to think more strategically and not immediately condemn everyone who says “hey maybe there’s a better way to go about this.”

        Battles aren’t won on fantasy and idealism. Stop treating realists as your enemy.

        To be clear, I’m not condemning the guy from California. If it gets people’s attention, puts the billionaire-caste off-balance, and shows working people that they have more power than they’ve been conditioned to believe, then it could be a net positive. If it results in a tightening of surveillance and even more authoritarian working conditions, more anti-union stigma and anti-proletariat propaganda, then it might cause more harm than good. It’s too early to tell and I’m not passing judgement on the guy, because ultimately he did something, and was willing to sacrifice his freedom to send a message.

        But pretending that a hundred or a thousand copycat attacks will magically solve all our problems is dangerously delusional. I merely pointed out that they can have unintended consequences, so that people will do their own cost-benefit analysis before acting blindly. Trying to instill fear in the billionaire-caste isn’t an end in its own; that accomplishes nothing and can make things worse. Anyone who chooses to use it as a means should have an idea of the specific goal they’re trying to achieve and how their actions contribute to that goal, and what else is needed to accomplish it. Otherwise it’s idiotic.

        Like, imagine you’re wearing an exploding collar (as a metaphor for the stranglehold the billionaires have on us and the means to live), and you’re 50 feet away from the guy with the remote detonator. You wouldn’t start yelling at him and threatening to kill him just to make him afraid. What would that accomplish? Now he’s alert to your intentions, and as soon as you start walking towards him he’s going to press the button.

        It would make more sense to appear unthreatening until you’re close enough to the guy with the button, then grab ahold of him and say “Go ahead, press it. You take me out, I’m taking you out with me.”