• AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social
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    17 days ago

    You’ll need to hang the whole congress, the senate, the white house, a good portion of the supreme court and several thousands more just to start with the heads of all this.

    Then we can talk about how to purge your population.

  • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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    Officers who commit war crimes CANNOT be let off the hook if we end this madness. They are required to refuse illegal orders, and they should be held to account.

    We can no longer afford to let people off in the name of national healing. Anyone complicit in these crimes must be severely punished - otherwise we’re just sending a message to future despots that there’s no risk to pursuit of their goals.

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      I’m totally convinced that most people are selfish and lazy pieces of shit with no morals, so I won’t hold my breath. What’s holding these idiots back in the past was an accessibility issue, which is now lifted. They are actually the majority. I’m preparing to be ruled by absolute dogshit morons who may at any moment become pedophilic mass murderers.

  • switcheroo@lemmy.world
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    May? May???

    There is no may! Everyone of those fuckers who thinks they can hide behind “I was only following orders” can be charged with war crimes and executed for all I care. Following orders when you KNOW they are illegal and KNOW they are reprehensible beyond all belief…? You think you deserve to be absolved? Nah fuck you.

    • Canaconda@lemmy.ca
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      You are reacting to the headline not the quote.

      “I’m old enough to remember the Nuremberg trials and how we’ve held the Germans accountable after… the atrocities they committed during World War II,” Brigadier General Steve Anderson told CNN Tuesday.

      “And I’d hate to think… five, 10 years from now, we’d be doing the same kind of thing with American soldiers and leaders that made decisions that were being directed by the president of the United States that are illegal.”

  • Jaysyn@lemmy.world
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    When writing or calling my reps I’ve started opening with “We will hold you criminally accountable for enabling Trump’s war crimes.”

    When I actually get a human, I tell them they need to find a new job as they will also be considered part of the conspiracy.

  • MithranArkanere@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    Not “might”, “must”, and for all the things, from the Supreme Court’s corruption to the corporate sponsorship of all the crime and genocide.

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      You are reacting to the headline not the quote.

      “I’m old enough to remember the Nuremberg trials and how we’ve held the Germans accountable after… the atrocities they committed during World War II,” Brigadier General Steve Anderson told CNN Tuesday.

      “And I’d hate to think… five, 10 years from now, we’d be doing the same kind of thing with American soldiers and leaders that made decisions that were being directed by the president of the United States that are illegal.”

  • TeraByteMarx@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    17 days ago

    Not to be overly depressive and cynical but the Nuremberg trials were, in practice, show trials and very few people were actually held accountable.

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      I’m by no means pro Israel but shouldn’t this rhetoric of dissolving states also be applied to brutally violent imperialist countries like the US too, or pretty much any state for that matter? Not meaning to be inflammatory, it’s a sincere question.

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        I understand your point. But Israel has been founded on brutality and genocide. They’ve just keep doing what they’re song today since it’s creation. The whole idea is to cleanse the area of any non Jewish people. They truly believe they are a supreme race chosen by God and that this land is their God given right. You can’t save a state that had that kind of history and mentality.

        The U.S. can be salvaged. It hasn’t always been a bad state. And it’s people aren’t all bloodthirsty killers like Israel.

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    trump is affecting the globe with his unhinged behaviour so if there truly is an international court, and global law is a thing, then yes, retributon should be swift.

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    For the US and Israel to truly experience this “Nuremberg” like trials you speak off, they have to lose the war. Germany did not win their wars nor was it a German judiciary that tried the cases.

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      they have to lose the war

      Germany didn’t de-Nazify after they lost the war. German Nazis continued to hold ranking positions in both East and West Germany and in their imperial industrial sectors (CIA and Stasi were both stuffed with former Nazis). One of the kinder things you could say about the Soviets was that they stuck Nazi captives in low-ranking grunt work positions and ran them to death. Similarly, the US turned a lot of ex-Nazis into Expendables style special forces and deep cover insurgent forces in missions that ended disastrously.

      But we had Adolf Heusinger running NATO. We had ex-SS officers all over the East German Police. Werner Von Braun was running NASA. Klaus Barbie, Alois Brunner, Josef Mengele all successfully exfilitrated to South America and the Middle East, thanks to Allen Dulles’s ratlines and the fascists in the 1940s Catholic Church. Postwar West Germany, in particular, was littered with mid-level ex-fascists and latter-day turncoats.

      Nevermind the foreign sponsors of German Nazis - the Bush Family, the Ford Family, IBM’s Watson Family, the Carnegies, the Morgans, the Duke of fucking Windsor. They all got richer for their trouble, even before guys like Eisenhower and Churchill vacuumed them all up into their orbit.

      Nuremberg was show trials for a handful of surviving high profile belligerents. A Limited Hangout, as Nixon would eventually describe it. Fascism never died. It simply got rebranded under the Cold War.

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    It’s not going to come from within. The only way it’s going to happen at this point is for the US to be invaded and deposed as a whole, with leadership captured and held accountable. And well, I’m not taking any bets on that happening.

    • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world
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      The United States’ economy depends on the goodwill of the world. Without their control of the international reserve currency it would utterly collapse. If that were to happen then the rest of the world would be in a strong position to make demands of the United States.

      However, over the last few decades most western economies have become so entwined with America that a US collapse would take them down as well. Efforts have been made in the last few months to reduce those entanglements, but there’s still a long way to go. If you want justice to be brought to America then the best thing you could do is boycott US goods and service whenever possible.