cross-posted from: https://lemmy.today/post/40716328
North Korea, Venezuela, the USSR during the Cold War, East Germany, heck even China (I know on good authority) all have had people flee and many of the above nations had to put up literal barriers to try and stop the fleeing.
……why? Isn’t socialism supposed to be the end-means ultimate utopian model society that all should strive for proudly? Why would anyone want to flee that for the “evil dregs” of capitalism?
Help me make sense of this.


“why are the countries that have had the whole world against them in a shit state”
I don’t know. I’m in the US, and it’s awesome here. I’m having a great time. So not sure about those countries you are talking about. But it’s awesome here. 😀
genuinely what the fuck are you going on about
What are you going on about? I told you it’s awesome here in the US. Where are you?